so much diversity in the nomination and on screen, yet for some bizarre reason, it's not translating into victories. got to wonder why. >> nope, nope. thank you, ayman. >> have a good night. welcome to ayman. so the big question tonight. how many audits does it take to declare joe biden president? the answer may, okay, it's not going to really surprise you. who are we kidding? what are you expecting when you expect to overthrow a democracy? memo by trump lawyer gives us a look into trump's intentions and state of mind on january 6th. on capitol hill, the house budget committee approved a $3.5 trillion reconciliation package during a rare saturday session. now we're actually learning that the house democrats will huddle at 5:30 p.m. on monday. we take a look at the great, the good, the bad, the unknown in that legislation with new jersey congresswoman bonnie watson coleman and then big news today, tens of thousands of mostly

haitian migrants sheltering under texas's del rio bridge have now been removed or deported. big question is, what comes next? i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. m ayman mohye. let's get started. >> as we get under way, former president trump on stage in georgia. comes 24 hours after president biden announced he would not shield record requests from the congressional committee investigating the january 6th riot. no presidential privilege for the former president. a batch of subpoenas from the closest advisers. this investigation intensifies as we learn how close we came to a sitting american president overthrowing the results of an election. that's worth recalling what trump said a year ago on friday, more than a month before election night. >> will you commit to make sure

there's a peaceful transfer of power after the election? >> we'll have to see what happens. you know that. i've been complaining very strongly about the ballots and the ballots are a disaster. >> people are rioting. >> if you get rid of the balance, it will be a continuation. >> he literally said get rid of the ballots and there won't be a transfer, there will be a continuation. again, that's what then president trump said before the election. we learned when it became clear for them and they had lost the election. in other words, they did exactly what they said they would and people act surprised about all of this. robert costa and then later obtained by cnn.

a six step scheme to overturn the results of the 2020 election. think about this. a overthrowing democracy for dummies book. now the plan called for the vice president to set aside the election results in seven states that president joe biden had won, nearly by citing ongoing disputes. now, that would drop the total number of electors appointed to 454 and as the memo reads, quote, a majority of the electors appointed would therefore be 228. they're at this point 232 votes for trump, 222 votes for biden, pence then gravels president trump as the reelected trump as vice president of the united states. vice president pence did not go along with this plan outline in east man's memo but still at play here. now do you understand why they wanted these audits or should i say fraudits after fraudits? the baseless disputes over arizona's results were key to

the strategy they spelled out. on friday, cyber ninjas and that is the real name released findings from so-called audit. remember, this is a company run by a trump supporter, hired by the state's senate republican intended to review ballots that no qualification had allowed them to do. after five months and nearly $6 million spent, their results were, well, anti-climactic. joe biden won the state of arizona and the presidency yet again. the problem is not just about what happened in this last election. in fact, it's just about what happens in the next one. now, i spoke to arizona secretary of state katie hobbs, watch. >> as we look ahead, this has done damage not just to people's confidence in the 2020 election, but as we head into the next election cycle, that it's going to continue to sew doubt, both here in arizona and around the country. >> think about it like this. it's kind of like a game of

whack-a-mole. as soon as one phony audit disappears, another one pops up to take its place. on friday, texas announced it would begin its own review of the 2020 election. they did so just 8.5 hours after trump requested one in an open letter to the republican governor of texas, greg abbott. trump also sent a letter to georgia state asking him to decertify the election results in that state. folks, this is the play book and trump is still playing from it and so the big lie lives on. joining me to discuss this, co-founder of the lincoln project and author of running against the devil, a plot to save america and democrats from themselves. sounding alarm bells about trump's behavior long before january 6 and rick hasan at uc irvine, a new paper out this week that shows how the activities of trump and his

allies, quote, served as dress rehearsals for how to subvert election results this 2024 and others. it's great to have you with us. i want to start with that memo that we're talking about. this outline, if you will. the 6 point outline from eastman. how realistic is this scheme and do we really owe the survival of our democracy at this point to one dan quayle who reportedly told pence or convinced pence he could not discard the electoral votes? >> you know, after cnn obtained the two page memo, sent a 6 page memo that was even worse, false claims that the election was stolen and based on false legal analysis claiming mike pence would have the authority to just throw out these legal votes based on nothing. eastman said there were slates of electors, there weren't. he said that pence had this power but what saved us was the

majority of congress that rejected this and people around the country, many of them republicans like the state of georgia who called and asked to find 12,000 votes to flip their results said no and asked to send an alternate slate of electors. a dress rehearsal, the next time the people in power might not be heroes, what if kevin mccarthy is the speaker of the house and willing to accept the lie. if not loses, why not make a winner and political and constitutional crisis like we haven't seen in over 100 years. >> that is the big concern, you get somebody perhaps more shrewd or calculated and more con conniving than president trump was. a prominent and respected figure in conservative establishments, clerked for justice claerns thomas and the federalist society, launching pad for which

republicans choose their next supreme court nominees. in fact, he's set to speak at the national political science conference next month, even after it's been exposed he wrote the blueprint on how to overthrow our democracy. so how normalized is election subversion now in the republican party? what does it say that the men who outline how to overthrow our government is pretty much welcomed in republican circles and centers of power? >> well, you know, it really speaks to the fact that republican party is past ideological and now purely dedicated to the retention of power and expect to get much more of these kind of fraudits, i love the phrase, i'm stealing it. we'll get much more of this kind of behavior that isn't just based on novel legal theories but on fiction and they're going to claim that the fiction is the truth, that the truth is the lie. they're going to go out here and every election from state

representatives up to president. if they don't like the outcome, they're trying to do two things. either try to discredit it by claiming fraud or as you've seen pass in 23 states now, these revisions of how votes are counted, tallied and managed after the election. so they're building an infrastructure to select their voters and to select their candidates and if they don't like the result, they're going to either declare it, try to poison our small d democratic process or try to use these new tools they've built to overturn it. this is a moment where we cannot underestimate the degree to which we are living in an era where there's a political party in this country that is no longer dedicated to the republic and the constitution and the rule of law and that's the republican party. >> the people that are asleep at the wheel keep saying don't relitigate the past but professor hasan, in your new paper, you wrote the most likely

ways election subversion would be through a bloodless coup depended on technical legal arguments overcoming valid election results and the way i read that is basically, overwhelming the safety mechanisms already built into the election process, explain that approach and why it's more dangerous than simply crying out voting fraud and asking people to go to the streets. >> well, as we saw with the results of the fake audit this week, it's hard to make claims of fraud and make them stick. i'm sure cyber ninjas do everything they could and if you could make these kind of technical legal arguments i lay out in the paper that state legislatures are unfettered in how they choose presidential electors, even if they've given the vote to the people because they can ignore the state constitutional requirements and they can overturn what election administrators have done. if you take that view of this very strong view of the power of the state legislatures and it wouldn't even take the courts to

affirm that that's correct, state legislatures just say it. the republicans in the house, if kevin mccarthy is speaker of the house could ratify it and you could have the election declare the election winner. i never expected in my lifetime in the united states that would worry about whether we would have a situation of election subversion where the losers could be declared the winners. this is a much graver threat than voter suppression that got a lot of coverage. it's about trying the loser into the winner and the bedrock of democracy, the winner has to be declared the winner. >> adjudicated in the courts up to either secretary of the state or republican controlled legislators who are currently the ones designing the system as we see. rick willson, one of the most shocking details in the book is the claim general millie grew so worried about trump's mental stability during his final days in office, he took steps to make

sure trump couldn't launch any nuclear weapons. watch this on colbert. >> the one courageous person is general millie. he's not seizing power but putting in precautions to make sure if trump's going to blow up the world or do something that's against american interests or, in fact, against trump's interests, he's at least going to be there at the table saying, no. >> i got a two-parter for you on that, rick wilson. in the future, how can we count on even one courageous person to be in the room when pushing the big lie has become part of the modern republican party's litmus test and should we be just as equally concerned with what this one senior military officer did? is that in and of itself a cause for concern?

>> there was when the national security officials concerned during the final collapse. he was going to do something outrageous regarding the weapons. so there was a tacit agreement to not just turn the keys but what they don't understand is the nuclear weapon system is built to have very little friction in it. it's meant to be very agile and responsive to the national command authority and it should scare the hell out of people that you've got someone like donald trump with a whole suite of cognitive issues as well as a determination to go, to transgress every single rule in the world to hold power. i think we owe general milley a vote of thanks on this. courage is the chief virtue in my world, but i've seen all my former republican friends transform themselves into people who will not say the truth to donald trump. they will not say, sir, you

lost. sir, this election didn't happen. you were not the winner. you are not still president. there is no magical fraud audit to fix this problem for you. you got beat. they won't say it. if you go to kevin mccarthy right now, who's the legitimate president? half the republican caucus, they'll say donald trump. they don't believe we live in a democracy anymore, which should scare the hell out of americans and these people, and by the way, one thing rick mentioned, if kevin mccarthy is speaker, if kevin mccarthy is speaker, i'll be shocked. republicans may take the majority but kevin mccarthy doesn't have the support of his caucus. it could be someone much, much worse. jim jordan would be a good scenario in this. the responsible kind of person. there are crazy people waiting to take over that party. >> professor, i got to wrap but ask you really quickly, i tried to end this on an optimistic note. anything can be done here to prevent from coup from happening in the future is this what's your takeaway on how we prevent

this from happening? >> congress needs to act right now, pass the freedom to vote act, revisions like requiring paper ballots and chain of custody requirements and doing things like increasing the penalties for people who try to steal elections. there's stuff to do right now. we can't wait until 2020. >> that is a tall ask from this congress given the way everything is playing out. we'll dig into that in this program. thank you to the both of you for starting us off this evening. coming up on monday, progressives and centrists need to hammer out. the fate hangs on the outcome of that. new jersey congresswoman bonnie watson coleman joins me next. plus, mixed messages led to more confusion whether or not americans should be getting covid booster shots. we'll try, keyword, try, to clear it up when we come back. w clear it up when we come back.

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all right, so the fate of president biden's legislative

agenda may be decided this week. house speaker nancy pelosi releasing a new letter to members today reading in part, september 30th is a date fraught with meaning. this week we must pass a continuing resolution, build back better act and the bif. that means she expects both the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill and the bipartisan infrastructure bills to pass the house this week. now, she called for the democratic caucus to meet monday at 5:30 to discuss and hammer out all these issues. a major sticking point is as always the deliberation of senator joe manchin. the west virginia democrat has requested a pause in the reconciliation negotiations. >> i think a good reconciliation vote could be done whenever. >> so that drew the ire of freshman progressive richie torres in an appearance on msnbc this morning. watch. >> there's no greater threat to the democratic majority in the house and the presidency of joe biden than government gridlock.

and the government gridlock is coming from the likes of joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. we no longer live in a democracy. we seem to live under the tyranny of joe manchin. >> we're all democrats so let's just finish this, get the reconciliation bill done as was agreed upon in the senate, when those senators voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill. they did so on the condition that this exact thing we're saying right now is what happens. the reconciliation bill passes and then we'll be happy to vote for the bill. >> the thing is you cannot act surprised because that was a reference to the fact the structure of the agreement actually goes back all the way to june when president biden announced the bipartisan infrastructure deal between a group of 21 senators. now at the time biden said he would only sign the bipartisan bill if congress also approved

the separate reconciliation bill. but the white house was forced to quickly walk back on that threat. apparently the president was guilty of having spoken the quiet political maneuvering that everybody expected. that part of it he said out loud. so what exactly is the point for these conservative democrats to call for a vote on infrastructure before a vote on reconciliation when it has been perfectly clear since june that the progressives won't go along with it? will it blow up any chance of passing either bill, or can manchin and company agree on a compromise that allows the house to vote on something next week keeping everyone happy? my next guest is at the center of those negotiations in her role as the vice chair at large in the congressional progressive caucus. welcome, congresswoman. thank you so much for your time. i know that this afternoon the house budget committee approved the $3.5 trillion reconciliation

package with a vote. one democrat actually voted against the bill. the house democratic caucus as i mentioned meet monday 5:30 p.m. is the congressional caucus willing to budge on the voting order of these two bills or will you vote against the bipartisan infrastructure bill before it comes for a vote on reconciliation? set the record straight for us. >> well, i think that this -- this infrastructure bill is so vitally important to allm faels in our country and to our economy. i think we have been mindful of the sort of challenges that have come before us, but we recognize what the deal was. we agreed to the deal. we're 100% behind the speaker in the bill, and we want to see the reconciliation bill which deals with things from child care to

elder care and everything in between. all those things that are vitally important to our future and to our present to be voted on and to be committed to before we take any vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill. >> there's this kind of false narrative out there that the joe manchins and kyrsten sinema's of the world are moderates. but when you look at the bill they remain widely popular. i'm going to go through some of them. investment in long-term care, that gets nearly 80% support from the public. modernizing school buildings and electricity grid are favored by nearly three quarters of respondents as is negotiating drug prices. they get 60% or nearly 60% support.

the progressive priorities here, they're overwhelmingly popular. they are widely accepted by the base of the democratic party, but progressives, do they now represent the base of the party? how would you describe senators manchin and sinema? are they the outliers of the democratic party? >> let me just say i think when you say that the progressive positions or priorities are a significant part -- they are what the country wants. we're not just talking on behalf of people who are so-called progressive versus moderate or whatever else, conservative. we're talking about what every day people wanted to see coming out of our work. and that's our responsibility. there's no reason we should be equivocating on this bill. authorize no element of the bill not important.

and if they don't think this is ready or something is wrong or they can't support it, tell me what you want to leave out. is it preschool care, elder care, good jobs, is it the investment in the climate? exactly what are your objections now? >> what are you saying about people like joe manchin? what do you think they are? are they the outliers of the democratic party? do you agree with congressman torres in the clip we played, that the party is being held hostage by the tyranny of senator manchin who does not represent where the party is ideologically? >> let me say that i pray that we find our ground that we can all stand behind this democrat because i've got to believe joe manchin as a human being believe in those elements and we'll get there. what do i think right now is that he or sinema seem to be in tune with what every day people

want, what the majority in this country want and what the majority in this country expects. we've got a democratic majority however small in the house. we've done our work. in the senate with a vice president and we have a democratic president. we have a responsibility -- >> you are way more optimistic about senator joe manchin than i am, congresswoman. i appreciate you for taking that question for me. thank you so much for your time this saturday. i appreciate it. coming up, tens of thousands of mostly haitian migrants who were sheltered under texas' del rio bridge, they're gone now. but the texas prime minister is warning haitian immigration will continue as long as so what is the country doing to prepare for it. that's next. is the country doing to prepare for it that's next. to j.d. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row.

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united nations general assembly today over the outrage of the treatment of asylum seekers. you saw the video. he told thou.n. ga quote, he does not wish to challenge the right of a sovereign state to control the entry borders into its territory but he added human beings fathers and mothers are always going to flee poverty and conflict. let there be little doubt about the situation these people are fleeing. those who chose to make this journey, they're fighting to stay alive leaving behind a crippled economy, extreme poverty, political instability, natural disasters, growing crime rates. it's been a little over two months since the haitian president was assassinated, a crime for which the current prime minister is actually being currently investigated for alleged involvement. for those that decide to flee, they face unimaginable challenges. those who made it to the border face controversial treatment from border control agents. president biden says the

officials pictured chasing haitians on horseback will pay. nearly 50,000 migrants had converged under the bridge in mexico. that camp has now been emptied. around 8,000 migrants returned voluntarily to mexico and as for the rest here's homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. >> today dhs has conducted 17 expulsion flights to haiti with approximately 2,000 individuals. those who were not excelled under title 42 are placed in immigration removal proceedings. >> did you hear that? title 42. does that ring a bell? might sound familiar, right? that's the law that was invoked during the trump era which allows federal health officials to ban people from entering the country during a pandemic. in fact, former vice president mike pence once overruled the cdc after they refused to comply with the trump administration directive about article 42. the decision was slammed because

it was deemed inhumane. but this time around the biden administration is actually fighting in court to keep that policy in place. so have opinions really shifted or is this outrageous hypocrisy? there's a lot to discuss in this complex issue. who better to help us break it down for us than the human rights lawyer and author and host of the show on sirius xm urban view. great to have you on the show this evening. i want to start out by asking you about government's deportation program here. these 2,000 people were flown back to haiti, some of them not even living in haiti for several years, living in other places as they made their way here to the u.s. they were reportedly given 25 u.s. dollars, sent to a place they no longer call home. the situation is so bad in haiti the u.s. special envoy there resigned in protest. i want to read a part of his statement. this is from daniel foot. he said i will not be associated

with the united states' inhumane counter productive decision to deport thousands of haitian refugees and illegal immigrants to haiti, a country where american officials are confined to secure compounds because of the danger posed by armed gangs to daily life. our policy approach to haiti remains deeply flawed and my recommendations have been ignored and dismissed. so what's your response to what we've seen this past week in terms of how the administration has handled all of this? >> well, first of all, thanks for giving air to this important issue. we have to recognize asylum is a human right. this is foundational principle that the united states has signed onto. and the u.n. has opined that even during a pandemic this is not an excuse to stop this right of asylum, this ability to apply for asylum is something afforded to every single human being on

earth. and the way to apply for asylum is actually quite clear. you arrive in a country and you request the ability to apply for asylum. there's no visa requirement, no age requirement, no first country requirement. you simply arrive and apply and you have a full year to make that application heard. that's basic due process of law. and for the biden administration to perpetuate this trump-era policy, this stephen miller right nationalist policy of invoking title 42 doesn't actually make sense with president biden's build back better agenda. it's actually contrary to it. so what i would request his administration to do is to look at the facts, look at the science. the cdc health officials are clear that this is not an opportunity to invoke title 42. in fact the history of it is back in 1944 the public health and service act was passed to provide quarantine for all people, not just immigrants but even u.s. citizens during a

pandemic on a case by case basis. it was never meant -- and deliberately immigrants were not mentioned because they didn't want to this to be used against those seeking asylum. >> i'm not sure you caught all of secretary mayorkas' statement from the white house. he did say asylum applies to those fleeing political persecution and evaluated on an individual basis. it's not just nationwide. he said those being returned to haiti fleeing natural disasters wouldn't be qualified that crime in itself is not a reason for seeking asylum. and they're making they're not being returned to parts of the country -- at least parts of the country affected by natural disasters. what would you say the persecution applies in asylum cases would not apply en masse to haitians fleeing that country?

>> i think that's an important point. there's no blanket asylum claim. there's no economic asylum claim. there absolutely is a specific case by case basis. so no one's disputing that. but that's nut what's at issue here. what's at issue here is these individuals seeking asylum aren't even being afforded the opportunity to make their case. you know, and the devastating circumstances that we're looking at under the previous administration, the human rights campaign did a study and found that over 1,500 people that the united states deported without hearing their asylum claim were later raped, murdered or tortured. one individual literally ate the documents that he was bringing to show that he was being persecuted because he knew if venezuelan authorities found them he'd be tortured, and that's exactly what happened. and so what the secretary is saying is exactly right but that's not the issue. the issue is we need to afford people the opportunity, the due process of law and have a full year to do that to prove their

claim. if they can't prove their claw of course the law requires they are sent back because they don't have a valid asylum claim. but denying that in the first place, that's contrary to basic justice and compassion. and we need to be better than that as a country. >> let's take a big look at immigration reform for a moment. immigration reform was a big ticket item. yesterday he said the system was broken, everybody in this country agrees with that statement. president trump was heavily criticized for the way he and republicans who were in the majority at the time wanted to deal with immigration by keeping everybody out, building walls, the am humanity of it. what's your sense of how the biden administration is doing right now in terms of how it's handling this issue and the roadblocks they face from republicans with the filibuster and getting actual immigration reform. is the system broken here? >> the system is absolutely

broken. it's becoming more and more difficult to legally remit to america whatever that means anymore. we know let's take asylum claims for a second. over 90% of people seeking asylum have family or friends here. so we don't need to lock them up or cage them up in any detention centers. we also know when we provide legal council to people seeking refugee status well overt 90% of them appear for the hearings and those who don't it's simply a matter of miscommunication. we have to recognize this is a human rights issue. people don't travel across oceans and land, through deserts with their babies for the fun of it. they do it as the prime minister of haiti said, because it is a life and death issue. and i would ask the biden administration to look at the humanity of this, to recognize there is a national security benefit and economic benefit and ultimately an obligation to human rights to uphold these

immigration laws and lead with compassionate justice. >> it's always a pleasure. thank you for joining us this evening. i appreciate your insights. and minority control, why the filibuster continues to prevent the governing party from actually governing the country. three major pieces of legislation dead on arrival just this week because of the filibuster. plus world leaders gathered for the united nations general assembly this week, but it might have been the international pop sensation group bts that stole the show. yes, i really do mean that. and when we come back, ted cruz made a texas sized mess on voter i.d. and racism on capitol hill this week. we're going to show you how one professor took the senator down in her own words. sor took the s in her own words joy the ride a little more. now, get new lower auto rates. you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower rate today.

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i.d. laws racist, professor tolson? >> thank you for that question. so it depends. one thing we have to stop doing is treating all voter i.d. laws as the same. >> okay, so your answer -- i want to move quickly. so it depends is your answer? >> that's my answer. >> okay, so voter i.d. laws are racist? >> apologies, mr. cruz. your state of texas, perhaps. >> okay so you think the entire state of texas is racist. what about requiring an idea to vote is racist. >> i think it's pretty reductive. i'm not saying the entire state of texas -- >> you tell me about the voter texas i.d. laws is racist in. >> the fact the voter i.d. was put into place to diminish the political power of latinos with racist intent -- >> what's your evidence for that? >> the federal district court that first resolved the constitutionality of texas' voter i.d. law. >> that's what they said. by the way if you want to hear more of what professor tolson

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>> i challenge anybody to put a mask on and five minutes smell that funk and think it's good for you. >> there's science and there's the smell test. and you're going with the smell test? >> yes. >> that was the daily show jordan outside a school board m. it was a funny bit but it also showed how much confusion there is around covid science. some of us can understand the simple science behind wearing a mask, more than others as you just saw there, but i'm pretty sure most of us won't understand the science behind vaccines and even booster shots. so the issue is really highlighted this week when the cdc director recommended a third dose of the pfizer vaccine for workers in high-risk occupational and institutional settings. her decision was actually aligned with the fda's authorizations, but, and this is the key part, it broke with a cdc advisory panel that voted against vaccine boosters. news headlines characterized the

cdc chief's decision as overruling her own committee but the doctor refuted this. watch. >> this was a scientific close call. i think you can tell by the duration of the meeting and the discussions that this was a scientific close call. in that situation it was my call to make. >> joining us now to try to clear up the confusion over covid booster shots is msnbc medical contributor. i appreciate you coming on to try to explain this to us. i believe in science and i want to understand this. before we even get to the specifics of this case, explain briefly how this process is supposed to work. what is the relationship between the fda and the cdc in determining what medicines or

vaccines we're supposed to be taking into our body. >> great question. the fda law and authority is supposed to look at applications for drugs and make sure they're safe and effective, that what the applicant says they're doing and what they claim to do is true. once the fda gives some sort of guidance, it's a decision handed over and the cdc advisory committee applies and gives guidance to committees such as myself about how those vaccines should best be used. almost unanimously the cdc advisory committee sends their recommendations to the director of the cdc who has to formally sign off and agree and those get published and doctors and pharmacists and nurses all adopt those recommendations. that's the normal process.

nothing about this process was normal, though. >> i want to make sure i'm not just conflating this. it's unusual, or is it not, for the director to break with the recommendations of her advisory panel? i don't want to use the word overrule. the panel went in one direction and she is saying it was her call to make, i respect that but what should we make of the discrepancy between the panel, the advisory panel and her call. >> i think what you make out of it is a confusing process. in 2003 the cdc director related the smallpox vaccine. it was a 9-6 vote, nine against. i think dr. walensky did, there was a heavy discussion on whether having that inclusion

broadened it to too many people getting boosters when the evidence didn't support it. >> how are americans supposed to know what to do with regards to covid given the mixed signals from our health agent? doesn't this just add fuel to the fire unfortunately? >> it does. i'm going to try to make it really simple. you had to have pfizer. if you had pfizer, move forward. if you're over 65, you definitely get a booster six months from your second dose. if you're under 65 and you've got chronic conditions and you take medications for things like diabetes, epilepsy, any -- hypertension, high blood pressure or you're obese, you are also likely to qualify. if you're not sure, ask your doctor because we are working with our patients to say, yes, it's been six month, we're think you're at high risk and you do need a booster. that's it. end of story, that's the kind of

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a few thoughts from that viral video from the steps of. u.s. capitol, when there was a shouting match? the georgia congresswoman yelled, quote, "you should all be ashamed." congresswoman debbie dingle began shouting back. [ shouting ] >> did you hear that?

she said "try being a christian." using your religion to denigrate someone with a different interpretation of your religion, it's just wrong. and it's a form of extremism that have spawned terrorist groups to claim to be the only true followers average. congresswoman dingle discussed the issue this morning with my colleagues. >> i think we should respect each other and i think we should be civil. i did not think it was right. i asked her to be civil. why couldn't she be civil? not my proudest moment but i'm tired of being bullied and i've been bullied at different points in my life. >> we're all asking ourselves why can't she be civil. all right. fair enough. good evening, everyone. thanks for stayi